00:00 carols=====BEGIN GSOC 2014 ORG REJECTION FEEDBACK MEETING====

00:00 carolshi everyone, thanks for coming

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00:00 carolsthis year we got 371 (well, technically 372) applications from organizations for the program.

00:01 carolswe accepted 190 organizations in total

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00:01 carolsbut unfortunately, we always have less space for orgs than we have applications.

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00:01 carolsthis year we emphasized, as we have in the past, accepting organizations that have never participated before and/or were small communities

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00:02 carolswe again saw a huge amount of applications from folks in the bioinformatics, life sciences, and biology fields

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00:02 carolsbut we also got some great new applications from fields we've never had participate before

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00:03 carolsplease make sure your ideas page is the one you used to apply with if you're in the queue, since that's what the assessment of our team was based on

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00:03 carolsand, as the topic says, you're also more than welcome to email me with a request for feedback, but please keep in mind that i'm just 1 person and i might take a while to get back to you

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00:03 carolsso with that

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00:03 carolskblin: i'll take queue #1

00:03 kblinyou can update the URL to your ideas page by using the queue command again if you haven't changed your nick

00:04 carolswhat kblin said

00:04 kblinyou won't lose your position in the queue while doing that

00:04 kblin!nextinline

00:04 gsocbotkblin: Next in line is nimrod_dom with notice: https://github.com/Araq/Nimrod/wiki/GSoC-2014-Ideas

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00:04 carolsalright, nimrod_dom needs voice

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00:04 carolsand i'll check my spreadsheet

00:04 nimrod_domhello :)

00:04 carolshello :-)

00:04 carolsjust a sec while i read

00:05 carolsalright, so a couple things:

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00:05 carols1) some of the ideas on your ideas page needed a bit of work

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00:05 carolsnot a huge deal, but we did notice it

00:05 carolsparticularly you seemed to lose steam at the end :-)

00:06 carolslove the format and structure of the page, though

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00:06 carolsand the number of ideas was great

00:06 carolsanother thing i didn't mention in the preamble, but is applicable here:

00:06 carolswe got a *ton* of apps from programming languages as well

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00:07 carolsand do you had some stiff competition :-(

00:07 carolslet me look at the app and see if there's anything else

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00:07 nimrod_domoh :(

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00:07 carolsyeah, we try to choose as wide a variety of projects as we can to benefit the students

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00:08 carolsand sometimes that means rejecting a lot of orgs in a particular topic area if the competition is stif

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00:08 carolsonly thing i'd say about your app is we might have liked to see someone vouching for you

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00:08 carolsbut that's a small thing

00:08 carolsthat's all i've got

00:08 carolsdo you have any questions?

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00:09 carols...still there nimrod_dom?

00:09 nimrod_domhrm, perhaps you could tell me what made you choose the other applicants in the programming languages field?

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00:10 nimrod_domDid it just come down to the quality of the ideas page?

00:10 carolsnimrod_dom: well, as i said, your app/ideas page wasn't A+, and you were competing in an A+ field

00:10 carolsit looks great

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00:10 carolsbut wasn't quite enough

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00:10 carolsfor next year i'd say take a couple ideas off the page and flesh out the ones you have there

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00:10 carolsand find someone to vouch for you :-)

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00:11 carolsanything else?

00:11 nimrod_domI see. I certainly will do that! :)

00:11 carolsexcellent

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00:11 nimrod_domNo, I think that's it.

00:11 carolsi hope you have a nice summer :-)

00:11 nimrod_domThank you.

00:11 carolsthanks for coming

00:11 carolsyou're welcome

00:11 kblin!nextinline

00:11 gsocbotkblin: Next in line is damn_sueastside with notice: https://github.com/sueastside/damn/wiki/Ideas

00:11 nimrod_domYou too!

00:11 carolsthanks kblin

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00:11 carolsalright, just a sec while i read

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00:12 carolsokay, damn_sueastside are you there?

00:12 damn_sueastsideyes i am

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00:12 carolsso first thing, your ideas page ideas have a great structure..but the actual content is a bit light

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00:13 carolsi'd give you the same feedback i gave to the previous folks, which is i'd probably recommend less ideas with more flesh on each one

00:13 carolsnext is, i can't say i'm totally wowed with your project's name :-(

00:13 carolswell, acronym.

00:14 carolsthe project looks interesting

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00:14 carolsbut it's not a good image to project to students :-(

00:14 damn_sueastsideOh, yeah it seems to be a hit or miss, I have an odd sense of humour :)

00:15 carolsyeah...doesn't really work with university students. we want to be professional

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00:15 carolsbut really, more than that, the ideas page didn't knock our socks off

00:15 carolsparticularly the fact that you have sections at the end that aren't included at all

00:15 carolsyour application otherwise looks fine

00:15 carolshope that helps

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00:16 carolsdid you have any questions?

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00:16 damn_sueastsideOh that's because the project is made of several modules, but there just weren't any tasks suitable for students for those modules, in retrospect we should have left those of the page I guess.

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00:17 carolsyeah, definitely

00:17 carolsand the ideas that are there should be a lot more in-depth

00:17 damn_sueastsideNo, your feedback is clear, thank you for your time and effort :)

00:17 carolsexcellent

00:17 carolsyou're welcome

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00:17 gsocbotkblin: Next in line is nixos_iElectric with notice: https://nixos.org/wiki/GSOC_2014_ideas_list

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00:17 nixos_iElectrichi!

00:17 carolsthanks kblin

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00:18 carolsi'll just be reading for a second, hang on

00:18 carolsso your ideas page is just so-so

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00:19 carolsfirstly, there are some ideas that are well described and clear, but there are some that aren't so much

00:19 carolssecond, none of them have the suggested skills or a difficulty level associated with them

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00:20 carolsyour app looks pretty good, but i would have liked to see lengthier answers to a few of our questions

00:20 carolsand did i mention we got a lot of new OS's applying this year as well?

00:20 carolsnone of those stacked up in your favor :-(

00:20 nixos_iElectricnop :)

00:20 nixos_iElectrichow much?

00:21 carolsi don't know off the top of my head

00:21 carolsbut quite a few

00:21 carolsanyway, do you have any questions on that?

00:21 nixos_iElectricok, we'll work on the ideas page and verbosity for the app next year

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00:22 nixos_iElectriccarols: do you have any special criterias for OS?

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00:23 nixos_iElectricnixos changes quite a bit how linux ecosystem works, maybe we should also link a vocabulary to the ideas page

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00:24 carolsexcellent

00:24 carolsthank you for coming :-)

00:24 carolsany other questions?

00:24 carolsi'll take that as a no.

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00:24 kblin!nextinline

00:24 gsocbotkblin: Next in line is opensips_razvanc with notice: http://www.opensips.org/Development/GSoC-IdeasList

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00:24 opensips_razvanchello :)

00:24 carolsokay, next in the queue, please kblin

00:24 carolsno, no special criteria. just a quality ideas page and application

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00:25 carolswell, and in comparison to everyone else who applies in your field :-)

00:25 carolsanything else?

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00:26 carolsthanks kblin

00:26 opensips_razvancso we should have worked better the application answers?

00:26 opensips_razvancas well as the ideas page

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00:26 carolsi'll just be a sec

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00:26 carolsalright, so, firstly, i like your ideas page, but it could have used some more flesh on the ideas

00:26 carolsi don't mind that it's short, but if it's going to be short, it's got to be well-described for each idea

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00:26 carolsyour app actually looks fine, but i would have been more swayed if you had someone vouching for you

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00:27 opensips_razvancgreat, thank you for your ideas

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00:27 carolsbut the ideas page wasn't as convincing as it needed to be

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00:27 carolsyou're welcome

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00:27 carolsany other questions?

00:27 opensips_razvancno, thanks

00:27 carolsyou're welcome

00:27 kblin!nextinline

00:27 gsocbotkblin: Next in line is wanmen with notice: https://github.com/wanmen/gsoc/blob/master/idea.md

00:28 wanmen_shaoI changed the name to wanmen_shao

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00:28 carolsthanks kblin

00:28 wanmen_shaothanks @kblin

00:28 carolsi'll just be a sec

00:28 wanmen_shaoThanks carols

00:28 carolshi wanmen_shao

00:28 wanmen_shaoHi carols

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00:29 carolsso, i have similar feedback for you that i did for the last group

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00:29 carolsi don't mind that your ideas page is short, but if it's going to be short it's got to be really well-fleshed-out

00:29 wanmen_shaoOh, I guess we'd better add more ideas?

00:29 carolssome of your ideas have skills required and languages, others dont

00:30 wanmen_shaoWe'll add more to that

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00:30 carolsyou don't necessarily need to add more ideas, but you do need to describe each one very well if you choose to go that route

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00:30 wanmen_shaoOK, thanks for the suggestion

00:30 carolsit sounds like an interesting project, but we would have also liked to see someone vouch for you

00:30 carolsthat would have been a nice point in your favor

00:30 carolsthat's all i've got

00:30 carolsany questions?

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00:31 wanmen_shaoNot at the present.

00:31 kblinwanmen_shao: also, could you /msg gsocbot dequeue, seeing how we're done here?

00:31 kblinthanks :)

00:31 carolsthanks wanmen_shao

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00:31 wanmen_shaoThanks, kblin

00:31 kblin!nextinline

00:31 gsocbotkblin: Next in line is opennms_sfb with notice: http://www.opennms.org/wiki/Ideas_for_Google_Summer_of_Code_2014

00:31 carolshave a nice day

00:31 wanmen_shaoThanks Carols

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00:31 carolshi opennms_sfb

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00:31 carolsdidn't you guys email me?

00:32 opennms_sfbHi carols.

00:32 opennms_sfbI didn't, I'm the org admin.

00:32 carolswell, i can cut and paste :-)

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00:32 carolsor did you just want to ask tarus?

00:32 opennms_sfbOK. (=

00:32 carolsit's up to you

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00:33 opennms_sfbI'd rather get it straight from you.

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00:33 opennms_sfbTarus is sometimes hard to get ahold of, busy guy and all.